"MAYDAY, MAYDAY, MAYDAY" UAL 328 B-777 200 20FEB 2021

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  1. turkisbluesky

    turkisbluesky2 kun oldin

    This old guy is talking too much rubbish.

  2. Crazy Clown

    Crazy Clown7 kun oldin

    Boeing cutting costs again with shitty cheao P&W Engines

  3. Ethan's Aviation

    Ethan's Aviation6 kun oldin

    So your blaming boeing for something they don't build or choose

  4. Ron Goes

    Ron Goes7 kun oldin

    Which is actually not the case. Airline customers are offered a choice of engine options depending on what they think will offer the best cost/benefit ratio. So your speculation is entirely wrong.

  5. James Bond 007

    James Bond 0077 kun oldin

    When and why would a pilot use a "Sideslip "? And can it be done in a Bad weather storm ?

  6. `Arnold

    `Arnold7 kun oldin

    Juan, do you ever attempt to talk to the pilots after some point in time?

  7. blancolirio

    blancolirio7 kun oldin

    yes. Stby for the update...

  8. Craig Arndt

    Craig Arndt8 kun oldin

    Soccer mom keeps kids outside under the debris field. Juan, yeah It'd be a good idea to get outta there. LOL

  9. Bill Wightman

    Bill Wightman8 kun oldin

    Great commentary Juan, as always. I've gone to the 787 now, but the Triple will always hold a special place in my heart. Kudos to this crew.

  10. Rick Sanchez

    Rick Sanchez8 kun oldin

    Thanks for your channel, probably better than the aviation week report to come out next month.

  11. Delta Lima

    Delta Lima8 kun oldin

    Awesome video! Thank you Juan for always providing great information and explanations in your videos!

  12. JF D rail

    JF D rail9 kun oldin

    M’aider m’aider m’aider

  13. Wildturkey10121

    Wildturkey101219 kun oldin

    Not good job United, Good job Boeing...United was responsible for maintenance on that engine. At least that is my thoughts!

  14. John Mac Lellan

    John Mac Lellan9 kun oldin

    Great analysis of a catastrophic engine failure and hats off to all the personnel who demonstrated very competent and steady nerves as they brought this serious incident to a safe ending without any casualties or significant injuries.

  15. QuasiRandomViewer

    QuasiRandomViewer9 kun oldin

    10:35 "The single-engine departure procedure for runway 25 has you turn to the left. So that's good. You're not turning into the dead engine. You're turning away from the dead engine." Naively, I would have thought that turning into the dead engine would have been easier (given the asymmetric thrust) and thus safer, and that for a given airspeed, the engine on the inside of a turn would have been exposed to slightly less wind, perhaps preventing additional pieces from being torn off. What is the rationale for the advantage of turning away? Is it, perhaps, that the engine on the inside of a turn is exposed to more turbulent air?

  16. QuasiRandomViewer

    QuasiRandomViewer2 kun oldin

    In Juan's 2021-03-02 interview -- UAL#1175 Fan Blade Out Event -- Capt. Behnam described making a right turn into final for Honolulu's 8R. That would have been a turn into his dead engine, but that aspect was not discussed. I'm glad it wasn't an issue on that flight.

  17. Ethan's Aviation

    Ethan's Aviation6 kun oldin

    One reason is that it's harder to end the turn with a dead engine

  18. Robert Gantry

    Robert Gantry9 kun oldin

    Interesting. I _did_ see the passenger's video footage last week, but I was unaware that it had just happened. I hadn't heard the radio traffic until now, so thanks for that.

  19. Matti Päivinen

    Matti Päivinen9 kun oldin

    Good informative video with expert aviator! Greetings from snow covered Finland :)

  20. ROBERT R Penny

    ROBERT R Penny9 kun oldin

    JB good reporting on UAL 328. Have you got any info on the AAL 2292 Capt. Reporting a UFO to ATC while at cruise alt over NM? Something like 'long cylindrical object just went over us really fast'. AAL admits it was their radio tx but says talk to FBI for further info. So might be tough to get info but hope you're working on it.

  21. BigPants Bob Nuggets

    BigPants Bob Nuggets9 kun oldin

    Question: are passengers moved away from seats inline with an unstable engine? Parts may dislodge and enter the cabin.

  22. Ethan's Aviation

    Ethan's Aviation6 kun oldin

    You can't always move people, even if they did it wouldn't make a difference as it would only send parts in to the fuselage when it first fails

  23. joeskis

    joeskis9 kun oldin

    I wanna know how they get all the other aircrafts organized when a mayday plane is inbound.

  24. Brent Bailey

    Brent Bailey9 kun oldin

    Thanks. I love it when ATC says the airport is all yours, any runway, stop where you like. All good, but 27 years old, ain't that old for this type of aircraft?

  25. thesuperb

    thesuperb9 kun oldin

    big thanks to you for the report and VAS for the audio. crew and ATC all professionals and met the moment.

  26. libertyn jeopardy

    libertyn jeopardy9 kun oldin

    Always mix at 50 to 1 to avoid seizures like this.

  27. Miracle Tire

    Miracle Tire9 kun oldin

    It's hard to trust mere humans with maintaining engines like that, let alone designing them. But what else can we do?

  28. Ethan's Aviation

    Ethan's Aviation6 kun oldin

    We build everything even a machine could have mistakes

  29. Monte Brown

    Monte Brown9 kun oldin

    The crew did an absolutely perfect execution of engine out procedure at take off. One passenger that was on board has video on Tiktok of the engine starting to come apart before rotation! The engine is loosing pieces and you can still see runway under the aircraft! Pilot was probably pulling up the gear at that moment because a few seconds later you can see the end of the runway. If the pilot would have tried to abort the take off it would have been a disaster. Engine couldn't have failed at a more critical time. Crew handled the situation perfectly.

  30. Jeff Sullivan

    Jeff Sullivan9 kun oldin

    And this is why you want to fly on an aircraft crewed by pilots that are trained to western standards.

  31. A Hannam

    A Hannam10 kun oldin

    Wouldn't they have had to dump some fuel to?

  32. Ethan's Aviation

    Ethan's Aviation6 kun oldin

    No, the flight wasn't 10 hours or longer

  33. Slacky Mac

    Slacky Mac10 kun oldin

    Transcription error all over the internet on this. I award points to Denver Departure. When the Mayday was announced, he did not reply "Somebody stepped on you". He said "say again, can you read that again?" That's what my old USAF ears hear.

  34. Tzadik Vanderhoof

    Tzadik Vanderhoof10 kun oldin

    Can you do a video on how ATC handles the NON emergency aircraft around the airport in a situation like this?

  35. Abe Lincoln

    Abe Lincoln10 kun oldin

    Well trained pilots easily dealt with the emergency. Not so with the 737 Max crashes ... where poorly trained pilots did not know how to properly deal with a runaway trim emergency on a 737 shortly after take off. And yet Boeing got the blame for two poorly trained aircrew. The dealt flight crew from the 737 Max crashes ... would have also crashed a 737 Jurassic, Classic, or NG suffering a runaway trim emergency in a 737 ... shortly after take off. The 737 Max should have never been grounded. Boeing didn't make the flight sensors nor does Boeing do airline maintenance or pilot training. The was nothing wrong with the MCAS system. Not fool proof but nothing wrong with it. It did it's job. The 737 Max only needed a MCAS software upgrade to make it FOOL PROOF. All Airlines flying the 737 need to ensure their pilots are properly trained.

  36. Shane Kenneth James Austin

    Shane Kenneth James Austin10 kun oldin

    Great coverage Juan, great response from the crew & ATC.

  37. DAVID LANG

    DAVID LANG10 kun oldin

    SO, DOES TEXAS USE THESE FEDERAL EMERGENCY STANDARD PROSEDURES, OR IS THAT CONSDERED THE FEDS GETTING INTO TEXAS STANDARDS?

  38. Richard George

    Richard George10 kun oldin

    Perfect example of an engine failure on rotation having no apparent effect on the climb away from the runway at Manchester Airport UK for any who are concerned about flying on twin engined aircraft. A TUI B757 Nº 2 engine bird ingested on rotation, see uznick.info/up/video/cn7KkaqrjNeBfHk

  39. Greg Popp

    Greg Popp10 kun oldin

    Great job! Very informative documentary !! Praise God that all are ok !!

  40. Sam dunbar

    Sam dunbar10 kun oldin

    The homeless chin thoracically jog because squirrel fourthly rinse into a imported quartz. makeshift, obnoxious knot

  41. Tim Allix

    Tim Allix10 kun oldin

    Not understanding why procedure calls for turning AWAY from dead engine. The remaining left engine would naturally yaw the aircraft to the right, why not utilize that force?

  42. Ethan's Aviation

    Ethan's Aviation5 kun oldin

    @Tim Allix Wasn't being rude, all I said is you can do some research into the other reasons.

  43. Tim Allix

    Tim Allix5 kun oldin

    @Ethan's Aviation If you really do know the answer, then drop the attitude and show your knowledge. We’re all here as a community of pilots, and I am sure there are others here who are asking the same question.

  44. Ethan's Aviation

    Ethan's Aviation5 kun oldin

    @Tim Allix Not lame, just one of many reasons, go do some research on it if you want more info.

  45. Tim Allix

    Tim Allix5 kun oldin

    @Ethan's Aviation That's a lame explanation

  46. Ethan's Aviation

    Ethan's Aviation6 kun oldin

    Because it's harder to end that turn due to the yaw plus other reasons

  47. Indrashis Powali

    Indrashis Powali10 kun oldin

    good job United !!!.....

  48. Jerry Glen

    Jerry Glen10 kun oldin

    So grateful we have so many great professionals flying these aircrafts today. Cool under pressure.

  49. Rohit Das

    Rohit Das10 kun oldin

    Great job! Most fortunate there were no casualties on the ground. The last I remember such an event occurring was the Quantas A380 out of Singapore with Rolls Royce engines, suffering an uncontained engine failure with nasty damage to the aircraft structure and debris falling on a school in Indonesia.

  50. charles logan

    charles logan10 kun oldin

    Haven't seen you in awhile. Nice job and glad to see your back flying.

  51. Räınböw Härvest

    Räınböw Härvest10 kun oldin

    It was a gremlin. LOL

  52. Steve R

    Steve R10 kun oldin

    Thank You... Just Thank You! So much anxiety is now gone for me.

  53. Jean Michel Tche

    Jean Michel Tche10 kun oldin

    THE DEFECT ENGIN SHOULD NOT STILL BE ON FIRE AFTER THE PILOT ENGAGED THE EXTINGUISHER WITCH MEAN FUEL WAS STILL COMMING IN THE ENGIN AND COULD'V LED TO WING EXPLOSION SO BIG FAULT HERE

  54. Dr Zeus

    Dr Zeus10 kun oldin

    Good thing it happened early then over the pacific en route to hawaii. Hope nobody got hurt by the debris

  55. Devon

    Devon11 kun oldin

    Thank you for going over this. I work close to where all this happened. We were so relieved there were no injuries in the air or on the ground. Great job United.

  56. Isaac Berry

    Isaac Berry11 kun oldin

    Use an Airbag underneath your jets son...save hundreds of lives. no you really can do that.

  57. Crowman

    Crowman11 kun oldin

    I bet when the oxygen mask dropped down from the ceiling a new pair of underwear dropped down with it.

  58. Ethan's Aviation

    Ethan's Aviation6 kun oldin

    Why would the masks drop? I do agree about the new pare underwear tho😂

  59. Dave H

    Dave H11 kun oldin

    Absolutely training paid off. Shows you the professionalism of these guys working together. Very lucky indeed, this could have been so much worse especially with full fuel load...Thx as always for your great reviews.

  60. Dave H

    Dave H10 kun oldin

    @Libturds Suck for sure!

  61. Libturds Suck

    Libturds Suck11 kun oldin

    Not blowing up in the first couple of minutes was lucky. The rest was just a routine engine out approach and landing.

  62. Roger Foster

    Roger Foster11 kun oldin

    7:15 can't see anything. You do know you can put videos at fullscreen, right?

  63. James Faulkner II

    James Faulkner II11 kun oldin

    Requesting MAYDAY

  64. John Livingston

    John Livingston11 kun oldin

    Thank you.

  65. Charles Radford

    Charles Radford11 kun oldin

    We have it on good authority that the incident happened "thousands of miles in the air". Watch at the 1:00 mark in this news report... uznick.info/up/video/bafBrYOpmqubg4k Reporter confused or actually ignorant?

  66. Roger Foster

    Roger Foster11 kun oldin

    The referenced video has been supposedly removed by the uploader.

  67. Matt Lee

    Matt Lee11 kun oldin

    Thanks for the Video. I'm glad you mentioned the immediate need to make a turn away from the rocky mountains, most of the reports missed this.

  68. Dan Patterson

    Dan Patterson11 kun oldin

    In WWII that would be counted as a "probable". Very glad no one was injured, very sorry the failure occurred. Determining the cause and whether any failure was due to offshore manufacturing (if any) will be interesting.

  69. Bob Bailey

    Bob Bailey11 kun oldin

    What you don't see is the effort behind the scenes by ATC to clear all other aircraft out of the way in order to give this aircraft the priority it deserves - it's quite a bit more complicated than you might think. I've been in that situation, I know

  70. Mark Gallagher

    Mark Gallagher11 kun oldin

    If you look one of the other videos from a passenger further forward, it must have been done with a newer iPhone, the FPS and image quality are high enough to stop or pause the video and see the two missing blades, the root separated blade and the trailing blade broken mid-span, jus like the other two failures, December 2020 and the 2018 HNL flight.

  71. Steve 100

    Steve 10011 kun oldin

    Thank you for the informative report as always. Most of the passengers aboard were probably not aware of the seriousness of this engine failure. The crew did a superb job ; as you said that's why they get the big bucks ! Glad no one on the ground got hurt either; pretty big pieces fell in that yard.

  72. Robert Dambeck

    Robert Dambeck11 kun oldin

    Fan Blade ... metal fatigue. Not the first time this has happened. Put Greg Feith on the case.

  73. Tom Cartmill

    Tom Cartmill11 kun oldin

    Why get it from you? We too can do our own news search.

  74. Ethan's Aviation

    Ethan's Aviation6 kun oldin

    Because he has flown the 777 and isn't a random news person

  75. blancolirio

    blancolirio11 kun oldin

    Good luck Tom!

  76. moo monster

    moo monster11 kun oldin

    So if you are the Denver Broncos football team the first officer becomes the quarterback , runs the offense . The captain becomes the offensive coordinator , decides the best plays to run to score. Touch down United ! 😊

  77. FalconXE302

    FalconXE30211 kun oldin

    Boeing planes are not what they used to be.

  78. Ethan's Aviation

    Ethan's Aviation6 kun oldin

    1) Boeing don't build engines 2) This used to happen before

  79. Lawrence Cavens

    Lawrence Cavens11 kun oldin

    So! Question here - Why are these engines failing - Back in the day when rolls royce engines were used on the 747 never had these problem fan blade failures...Something tells me that the engineer's have to go back and redesign these blades. I kinda get the feeling that either bad maintenance when a inspection is performed or bad parts that are still in the system where some one is passing these so called semi passable parts with out doing a full integral check of the blade in question meaning there could be dosen of flawed blade that are waiting to fail like this one did. The tv show 20/20 has done investigative reports on shoty practices of used parts being put back into service that have questionable paper work -???

  80. Jonathan S Lollas

    Jonathan S Lollas11 kun oldin

    Ironically.... the tail number 772 is the same tail number as Southwest flight 1380 aircraft that has similar emergency. (N772sw) (N772UA)

  81. MeBeTheDB

    MeBeTheDB11 kun oldin

    ***** _THANK YOU, JUAN-!_ Hopefully, not a silly question -- but why didn't they activate the *FIRE SUPPRESSION* on the starboard engine ..? SIDE NOTE: Thank you for your viddies. I discovered you on the Oroville Spillway catastrophe and please know, amigo -- what you do matters to aviation and the wellness of your fellow humanity. D.A.

  82. blancolirio

    blancolirio11 kun oldin

    They did...see latest update-confirmed.

  83. j2simpso

    j2simpso11 kun oldin

    Great analysis as always Juan. Just wondering if you could comment on the difference between a heavy mayday and a regular one? I'll let myself out now! 😅

  84. Mo Vahdati

    Mo Vahdati11 kun oldin

    Capitan Behnam has saved another crash in 2018 , check him out , he must be an angel 😇

  85. Mein Kapu

    Mein Kapu11 kun oldin

    The MSM was no doubt salivating but everything turned out fine. :-) :-(

  86. sandino83

    sandino8311 kun oldin

    "Good job, United."

  87. Tony V

    Tony V11 kun oldin

    The calmness of the aircrew reminds me so much of radio traffic for Captain Sully when he landed in the Hudson River...very professional...well done!

  88. Richard Strobbe

    Richard Strobbe11 kun oldin

    Juan, is this the same engine series that lost an engine out of philadelphia last year.

  89. postersm 71

    postersm 7111 kun oldin

    Pilots were absolutely awesome but also, ATC!!!

  90. D R

    D R11 kun oldin

    What are the odds of two identical engine's fail exactly the same way in 24 hours of each other ???

  91. James Govett

    James Govett12 kun oldin

    It’s really great to have you explain in thoroughly understandable terms what and why this happened and all the associated procedures that were put into place during this emergency and from an experienced pilot of yourself, well done and thankyou, but it also shows what may have happened if the engine fan blade(s) and nacelle/cowling parts happened to explode apart on a different trajectory and damaged wing slats or fuselage, severed hydraulic/fuel lines etc which hypothetically could have happened also but the fact that it looks like it fell away from the aircraft structure and landed without any injuries is a good thing but looks like it easily could have gone the other way, you have a great channel, extremely interesting thank you, cheers from Melbourne, Australia.

  92. Giuseppe Benvenuto

    Giuseppe Benvenuto12 kun oldin

    I've always said commercial pilots are the best trained professionals of any profession in existence. Great job by the crew, that could have went really bad like American 191 heavy.

  93. Mal

    Mal12 kun oldin

    I was thinking about you and your channel when this happened the other day. More so since you fly a B777 and wanted your thoughts. Thanks for sharing

  94. James Street

    James Street12 kun oldin

    It's great that people have so much video of these engine failures. It could be helpful in determining what happened to cause such a catastrophic event

  95. Drew McG

    Drew McG12 kun oldin

    Do the 777 engines use jet fuel to hydraulically operate variable stator/guide vanes or bleed valves? If not, what do they use? Wondering if that could be the source of the fire

  96. bp4924

    bp492412 kun oldin

    Excellent presentation, as always, Juan. At about the 19 minute mark, you talked about taking the ILS in order to stabilize the approach and minimize the chance of a go-around This is key. As a pilot , you know how to land the aircraft. Do it. Make it as normal as possible Figure out what she will do, then take her to the runway (or field, if necessary) Don't be the guy who rolls his helicopter over because he's worried that he forgot to check the fuel cap.

  97. milcoll73

    milcoll7312 kun oldin

    impressed by the professionalism of all involved.

  98. milcoll73

    milcoll7312 kun oldin

    why dont aircrew notify the flightcrew of souls on board as soon as the a/c is buttoned up?

  99. tubemcg

    tubemcg12 kun oldin

    I don't watch Major Fake News Networks anymore - I go to the expert channels to get the real news - channels like yours.

  100. timrev8

    timrev812 kun oldin

    Thank you!!

  101. Paul Watkins

    Paul Watkins12 kun oldin

    it was contained no debris from the engine penetrated the aircraft it was all contained within the engine.

  102. Carolyn Ericson

    Carolyn Ericson12 kun oldin

    Wow! Never heard a report this clearly ingormative. Very exciting too.

  103. Paul Watkins

    Paul Watkins12 kun oldin

    1;51 a turban is what a seikh wears on his head a TURBINE is what is in a jet engine learn to pronounce or enunciate or learn the difference do not call yourself or try to portray yourself as a so called expert if you cannot describe the relevant parts of an engine by their correct names. I watched a video earlier with ATC tapes provided by VAS Aviation (thanks Victor) and that presenter knew the difference between a turbine and a turban

  104. blancolirio

    blancolirio11 kun oldin

    Paul my pedantic punter friend....LOL

  105. Paul Simonson

    Paul Simonson11 kun oldin

    Thanks for making it clear to all of us idiots that can't pronounce certain words perfectly like you do. How do you pronounce selfimportantprig?

  106. TAN GRE

    TAN GRE12 kun oldin

    What if this engine would have exploded midway over the pacific? With that engine shaking on fire would they have needed to ditch it in the water. If so that's very scary thought.If it did go down in the pacific would it have been survivable. Floating rafts and life vest?

  107. Jim New

    Jim New12 kun oldin

    A lot of comments are, " why didn't they just get on the ground ASAP but they were taking their time and doing checklists etc. I was thinking this plane is full of fuel and probably loaded to the max. an plane like this has a max takeoff weight and a max landing weight which is considerably less than the takeoff weight. That's why they have to dump fuel before landing . Nothing was mentioned about dumping fuel. Was it because dumping fuel would be very dangerous since an engine was on fire?

  108. Ronald Perrin

    Ronald Perrin12 kun oldin

    Thankfully this happened over land and not far out over the water.

  109. boscat666

    boscat66612 kun oldin

    i just scrolled your video ........ you must be an investigator or a pilot on the same plane ....... im not happy how people want to abuse a drama that can kill

  110. Some Guy Born In 88

    Some Guy Born In 8811 kun oldin

    @Aseem Nakarmi If you go back and watch Juan's previous videos you would know what kind of aircraft he has flown what his experience level is and what he is currently flying for the airlines.

  111. Aseem Nakarmi

    Aseem Nakarmi11 kun oldin

    @Some Guy Born In 88 No US airline has 777-300. Do you mean 777-300ER?

  112. Some Guy Born In 88

    Some Guy Born In 8812 kun oldin

    He has 40 years of flying experience, civilian, military and airlines. He's currently a first officer for a major airline in the US and flies the 777-300

  113. LittleNoiseBoy

    LittleNoiseBoy12 kun oldin

    Fantastic and insightful as ever, Sir: many thanks. Wonderful that no one hurt in the air or on the ground. What strange times for aviation! Thanks again...

  114. I don't know

    I don't know12 kun oldin

    When I was a kid I think it was in the late fifties in the San Fernando Valley an engine fell off a jet and landed in a school yard. The whole area came out to look at it. I don't recall about the rest of the jet. But it was shocking even back then. Just looked it up and yes a mid air collision.

  115. Joseph Ososkie

    Joseph Ososkie12 kun oldin

    I hate that Denver airport. Very good job.

  116. claudemiropacheco

    claudemiropacheco12 kun oldin

    I wonder how heavy were those parts. Would potentially deadly for any on the ground?

  117. stewart grant

    stewart grant12 kun oldin

    Hey Blanco, you keep an eye on them gauges next time out. No looking out the window and telling jokes. Those P&W's can blow anytime!

  118. Shaine Maine

    Shaine Maine12 kun oldin

    That fan blades around somewhere, its bound to be found by someone

  119. Make My Day

    Make My Day12 kun oldin

    excellent analysis

  120. Ken Fretwell

    Ken Fretwell12 kun oldin

    ? Fuel load ?

  121. Hector

    Hector12 kun oldin

    nice and excellent information tks

  122. Ron Hunt

    Ron Hunt12 kun oldin

    Thanks Juan. Good report as always. As an aside, I had 5 engine failures in my 41 year career but only 1 was catastrophic - most of those happened before cell phones and the internet had been invented. So the bigger question - Did they get another plane for the trip to HNL before their duty time ran out? :-)

  123. J C

    J C12 kun oldin

    So here is the question.. had this failure occurred over the Pacific, halfway to Hawaii, could the vibration from the engine have caused the engine to fully separate from the wing, causing the plane to come down?

  124. Ross Thomson

    Ross Thomson12 kun oldin

    Great video

  125. Roger Froud

    Roger Froud12 kun oldin

    Ok, this engine shouldn't have failed, but accepting that this might happen, being prepared and designing for survival is remarkable. Well done to the designers and pilots for making this a survivable incident.

  126. Euclidus Chaumeau

    Euclidus Chaumeau12 kun oldin

    They had a turbulence alert for 14K to 22K feet when they took off. The engine blew at 13K feet, so is there any chance that rotor winds from mountain effect turbulence pushed too much air into the engine and caused a compressor stall, which might have triggered the turbine disc failure(s)? That was my first thought.